1971 CB350K engine rebuild out of an apartment in Brooklyn

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I bought it for $600 non-running with a clean title in 2018. I got it running with help from the old site and rode it around for two years and had a blast. It's pretty beat up with its 25,000 miles but it still was pretty decent in the city. I installed the pamco ignition and got it running pretty good but it always leaked oil pretty badly out of the front of number 2 cylinder between the cylinders and the cam box. So finally I forced my brother to help me pull the engine out so I could diagnose it. This is what I found:

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The inside of the cylinders didn't seem too damaged. They measured pretty much exactly 64.00mm all the way around top and bottom both cylinders. They weren't visually flawless there were some what seemed like very minor scratches but they felt smooth to the touch. I have digital calipers I will measure everything tonight.

Now keep in mind I bought this bike sight unseen on ebay for $600 with a clean title and 24,000 miles from a father/son duo out in rural PA who had bit off more than they could chew and hadn't even attempted to rebuild the carbs yet and it hadn't been on the road since I think the 80s. I've put a few hundred miles on it just tooling around north BK. I think I had the carbs tuned pretty good this isn't the first vintage bike who's carbs I've rebuilt. I'm using the stock filters although they are very dirty i cleaned them as best I could. What the heck caused that chunk the other piston to get bitten off? :eek:

Also the cam was badly pitted on one lobe and on rocker face, I'll post a pic later. THANK GOD my buddy gave me a whole box of old cb/cl350 parts since he's built two before me. I know he fully rebuilt and blueprinted at least one cl350 engine. He gave me spare cl350 transmission too. Anyway in that box was a NEARLY BRAND NEW cb350 cam shaft and rockers. Saved me hundreds on this project.

Also one reason I am rebuilding the top end is because the bike would die at stop lights after it got hot/overheated. Like it was getting choked out or something. When dissembling I noticed the outer front stud on the number 2 side with the leak was not very tight, all others were properly tight but not that one. the leak could have just been one loose stud nut. Number 2 piston head and chamber were wet with oil. Oil spraying all over the no. 2 chamber after overheating could have been killing the engine. I have to check to see if its got any leaky/bent valves. I just got my valve clamp today so ill check tonight.

I ordered an engine stand on ebay for $43 shipped and it works great. says 66 pound max weight but it holds the cb350 engine fine and is also adjustable for my cb550 engine later. Here is a link to it:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Motorcycle...e=STRK:MEBIDX:IT&_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649
I'm deciding if i want to split it and rebuild the lower end/trans too. How should I test how well my valves seal? Off the top of my head I know it had good compression when I got it going two years ago I don't remember the exact numbers though. I know I'm a dummy for dissembling it without checking compression again.

I may order over sized pistons and have machine shop do the valves and cylinders, I need at least one piston (?), the problem is I can't find any cheap +3.00mm overbore pistons anywhere for sale. The rest of the bike aint in the best of shape so it's not worth the Wisecos. I was lucky and got a set of +3.00 overbore pistons for my cb550 project for like $120 off ebay a few years ago, I can't find the cb350 equivalent. I will probably have my cb550 cylinders done at the same time.

I would love to install the KA Slipper too if someone has one for sale.

PS if anyone knows of a good machine shop in the nyc tristate area let me know:)
 

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If you need one oversize piston you need both. 3mm oversize is pushing the liner wall thickness to it's limits and probably beyond. Why not use 1mm over which are easily found for a decent price and spend your money on a good valve job? The valve job/engine breathing is where you gain over piston sizing.
KA Slippers went away with Bore Tech going out of business a few years ago.
I see signs the PO used Permatex sealer on the head gasket. These engines are assembled dry with the exception of Honda Bond to seal the case halves.
 
3.00mm overbore seems like the limit for most of these 70s Honda jugs. It’s the limit for my cb550 too. It doesn’t matter if you mess them up because another set of used jugs is not expensive.

I’m not totally dedicated to overboring my 350 but I would if I could find a piston set that is at least 2mm over for <$200. As it is all I need is one stock piston. Cylinder walls seems fine and within factory spec
 
Until the bore is actually, using a bore gauge, measured every @1/2" of it's length for round and taper it's not known for sure they are good. The 350's are known for out of round issues with age.
I agree that cylinders are easy to come by. I went to a 1mm overbore using CruzinImage pistons after having them coated by Swaintech. I spent my money on getting the head done with bronze valve guides, valve seals, SS exhaust valves and a Serdi vavle seat grind.
 
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