C92 von 1964 (C92 from 1964)

Storm007

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Hallo, habe ende Dezember, meine C92 bekommen aus Holland, Erstzulassung war in England 1964.
Die Benly sieht für ihr Alter noch ganz gut aus.
Sie springt mit dem Kickstarter nach ein paar mal treten gut an. Nur die Beleuchtung geht nicht, also keine Blinker, Rücklicht, brems Licht, F
rontstrahler, Hupe.
Geht nichts auch nicht, wenn sie an ist, da geht nur ganz leise die Hupe. Es sind 2 Akkus drin, habe sie aufgeladen aber auch nicht. Birnen sind heile.
Woran kann es liegen?
Vielleicht Masse Problem.
Da sind viele Kabel frei, ist das normal?

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Hello, I got my C92 from Holland at the end of December, first registered in England in 1964.
The Benly still looks pretty good for her age.
It starts well with the Kickstarter after a few kicks. Only the lighting doesn't work, so no indicators, taillight, brake light, F
ront radiator, horn.
If nothing works even when it's on, the horn just sounds very quietly. There are 2 batteries in it, but I haven't charged them either. Pears are healthy.
What could be the problem?
Maybe mass problem.
There are a lot of free cables, is that normal?
 
That is interesting. 2 small 6volts wired in parallel for more amperage is not really needed. There are larger 6volts that will fit.
The in-line fuse may be blown so all lights won't work.
These bikes need a fully charged battery to act as voltage regulation or there is danger of burning out the lamps. Make sure the wiring from the alternator is done correctly to the rectifier and battery.
The black wires you have marked in blue are just an additional connector for a charger. The picture does not show the battery even connected.
This is how I did mine.
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Make sure you have a good battery. Did this model come with turn signals originally or were they added? My 1965 S90 did not have turn signals but is a USA model so wondering how many modifications were made to the harness. Make sure that you have a good ground to the frame and that where they are connected the paint was removed to allow a good contact at the terminal. If it is not something obvious like that then it is time to dig out a test lamp and multimeter and start troubleshooting. You will need to find a good copy of the wiring diagram to start. Electrical problems can be painful and tedious.
 
Die Blinker sind Original. Die C92 war die erste 125 damals 1959 die mit Blinkern ausgestattet wurde. In Deutschland gab es die mit und ohne Blinker.
 
Hello, found an error. The red cable is disconnected from the ignition lock, when I plug it in it comes on when I pedal. When I connect the battery, the plus is red. Minus which is that there are a lot of cables, but when I connect minus to the ground cable from the battery, the horn goes off and the electric starter complains. Otherwise nothing works, no lights and no indicators. An old Dax tank connected.
 
Hello Storm, I don't know if my US wiring diagram is the same as your German bike but the red wire is the positive power to the key switch from the battery positive (has a fuse). The black wire from the key switch supplies power when the switch is on to the ignition (coil and points) and the horn. The starter solenoid gets it's power from the key switch from a black and red wire. The handlebar switches buttons for horn and starter are only ground wires that complete their ground when those buttons are pushed. Perhaps those wires are not connected correctly in the headlight area.
Do you have a wiring schematic diagram for your bike?
Send a private message to Ancientdad to ask for access to our library for the Factory Service Manual.

Here are two diagrams that may be useful. The color one has good detail of the key switch connections that you can apply to the other diagram which may be more correct for your German bike.
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I've now taken the old tires off and put new ones on them.
Cleaned the tank with citric acid because it had some rust.
The electrics are all working now. This is what it looks like now. I removed the paint from the side covers with paint stripper and removed the rust. Now I'm just waiting for a new old speedometer, mine is broken that I ordered in Thailand.DSC_5956.JPGDSC_5961.JPGDSC_5967.JPGDSC_6005.JPGDSC_5966.JPGDSC_5965.JPGDSC_5821.JPGDSC_5905.JPGDSC_5906.JPGDSC_5987.JPGDSC_5993.JPGDSC_6002.JPG
 
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Great job! Soon you will be riding.

Did you clean the centrifugal oil filter yet?

If the battery connections show signs of overheating from too much current then make the little clamps like mine in post #4. I tried little wires like you have but they overheated.

Your pictures are very nice. Here is one of my two bikes.

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I got the data sheet from Honda. It was quick, only took three and a half weeks. Now I can take it to the MOT. And who would have thought, the C92 Benly is not from 1964 but from 1961 as Honda wrote.
 
Glad it didn't take the 3 months. I am still waiting to get the title for my CB450 that I applied for back in March which can take up to 3 months according to the North Carolina DMV (Department of Motor Vehicles). 3 Months, I wonder if there is an international standard that all government workers must abide by when handling any kind of paperwork. Too much efficiency by one could make another office look bad.
 
I polished the air pump a bit, it looks better now. It fits very well under the seat with the lock.
I also have the other air pump with the hose. It is a bit smaller and if I attach it to the Benley with the lock it can still be pulled off, i.e. stolen. The other one cannot. Both are for the Benley, so both should work.DSC_6081.JPGDSC_6083.JPGDSC_6084.JPGDSC_6085.JPGDSC_6086.JPGDSC_6020.JPG
 
Hello, I can't pass the MOT because of the headlight because it doesn't have an E standard, so it doesn't have an E mark. That didn't exist in the 60s. But the MOT inspector said that it has to be like that now. Now I'm looking for a suitable headlight with an E standard.
 
For the non-European members, TÜV stands for Technischer Überwachungs Verein (Association for Technical Inspection). The German TÜV is the strictest technical inspection in Europe.
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Well, that didn't work out as expected :cry:

I saw some German people placed a (cheap) round headlight with E-mark into the square headlight case, it will do for passing the test, and afterward replaced for the original one.
 
So Germany doesn't have some process for inspecting a "vintage", or "antique" vehicle in original condition? Seems like there would be some accommodation for that.
 
The bike looks great and happy that you got it inspected and on the road and the booster seat is awesome. Who enjoys the ride more you or your little one?
 
Hallo, ich habe meinen C92 auseinandergebaut und zum Maler gebracht.
Ich habe endlich meinen Honda aus der Lackiererei zurückbekommen. Es dauerte lange; Er war so beschäftigt. Aber es war billig. Ich habe diesen Winter etwas, woran ich herumbasteln kann.
Die Farbe ist weiß-grau, was dem Original nahekommt.
Ich habe schon einiges davon zusammengebaut. Ich muss mit dem Rest, einschließlich des Motors, bis der Winter vorbei ist, warten. Ich werde ihn mit eingeschaltetem Motor nicht aus dem Keller holen können.
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Something happened to me in the fall. I was out riding with my little one, which is why I had it painted. At 80 km/h, the chain broke. The rear wheel didn't lock up, but the chain guard was damaged.
The clutch pushrod has broken the chain. Then the oil seal behind it is leaking.
I met an old mechanic who repairs old Hondas and still has parts. He says they're hard to come by. He took the engine apart; both pistons had seized a while ago. He got everything working again. Honed the cylinders. Installed a new gasket. He still had the pushrod.
When the engine was off, I considered having it repainted.
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Good excuse to get it re-painted, and it turned out very well. Good to hear the engine was easily repaired.
 
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