Check the entry for the CL77 in this thread above. Matching numbers are very rare on Hondas of that era, Honda did a lot of destructive engine testing by pulling engines off the assembly line randomly so even seeing a bike with the numbers within a few hundred is rare. The frame number will be stamped into the left side of the steering head, turn the forks to the right and look there. the engine number should be on the left side top of the crankcase basically under the carbs.
Not sure where the engine number is found. On the CA77 the VIN is hidden, so I suspect your's is as well.
Sadly, it does not and I don't understand why. I've had this book for a couple decades and there are very few omissions or mistakes in it, so it escapes me why they didn't include the CB175K0.
Ed, go back to the beginning of this thread and look at all the entries for the CB450 - the frame and engine number you posted above is for a CB450K5, which is a 1972 model. Hard to say what the story is there, but you'd need to see paperwork showing it's titled a '68 and even if true it doesn't have the original frame or engine.
And remember, if you want another bike looked up that is not listed here, just let me know.Thanks for posting this long ago--I just found it
I would like to ask you to look up my vin # for my Cb160 sport. I was told it was a 68’ most likely. However the Calif. DMV ask for correct age. So far it looks to be a 64’. I have picked through forums but always they say “ it looks to be”, but nothing definite. My frame number is B1601050635 Thanks, Ken Koll
Pictures of your forks would help. The early lowers were steel, the later CL's and the last year of the CB's were alloy.
Sorry, didn't mean to come off as annoyed, I simply mentioned that you had posted the same question in 3 different places (including your PM to me with the same question) apparently because you didn't see the replies you'd already gotten. We have no way of knowing how tech-savvy a member might be, or what they see or don't see on the forum. Many of the things you may not understand about using a forum like VHT are explained in my Welcome Package of helpful links which I posted in my reply to your introduction. If you missed it, here it is.
I don't know the Dreams very well, but those are low frame and engine numbers.
Seven digits means it is at least a 1965. Title date is only sale date, there were no model years back then. It's good, later battery is easier to find and undercut engagement dogs on gears shifts better.
Thanks , so it is probably a 1966 as the ad said.
Do you know of any good parts sources, done a little checking, could be a challenge.
Since the 305s are from a decade longer ago, your situation might be a little more difficult but here are some suggestions from my Welcome Package in case you didn't see it.
www.vintagehondatwins.com
These guys are great, and check out his photo gallery too. Also, the usual ebay search by part number.
Most of the '60s models are harder to be sure of and you have covered most of the clues I'm used to reading. I owned a CA72 for a while when I was 15 but haven't touched a Dream since so I can't add anything, but @ballbearian will be along to help you get it figured out.
Thanks, AncientDad!
Probably Bill Silver, very well known for his work and knowledge of these machines who is also a member here @MrHonda1948 and who would be able to help.
I'm surprised there is no obvious CA77- or CA78- near your frame number (lower left). If there really is no stamp, I'd probably start title process as a CA78-101799, but it won't matter much if you do CA77-101799 either. Mine is CA78-104543, but yours is still earlier. 64 was the year Honda switched frame stamp from CA77 to CA78, exactly when, who knows, but you have matching and very low 64 numbers. 68 was probably the year it was first sold and first title went by that, as there were no actual years of production.
Yes, this is the sheet I was referencing. Thanks, Ballbearian! And I will post a project thread, once I get started on it. Right now, it's sitting strapped in my old pickup. I have to take it to a highway patrol office, which is about an hour away, for an inspection of the numbers so they can do their own checks. Once that's done, I'll unload it and start doing some work on it. This is going to be a nice, long project...I'm surprised there is no obvious CA77- or CA78- near your frame number (lower left). If there really is no stamp, I'd probably start title process as a CA78-101799, but it won't matter much if you do CA77-101799 either. Mine is CA78-104543, but yours is still earlier. 64 was the year Honda switched frame stamp from CA77 to CA78, exactly when, who knows, but you have matching and very low 64 numbers. 68 was probably the year it was first sold and first title went by that, as there were no actual years of production.
Here is a parts list revision sheet from 20th Oct. 1968. It only shows numbers up to 65 though.
Please do start a project thread for all deeper Q&A continuity, there will be plenty.
Hi, I'm running into a few parts conflicts which are making me question the bike I actually have. I believe I have a 1970 SL350 K0. The VIN plate shows a date of Mfr of 04/70 and the frame number is SL350-1024833. Can you validate that for me?
That's an easy one. With a frame number starting 100xxxx, it's a K0. You might check the engine number to see if it's an original SL350K0 engine because the CB/CL engines would interchange, all had electric start as did the K0. First entry here
Thanks. That all tracks as expected. I'll double check the engine number, but I'm pretty certain its original. The carbs have been my problem. If I order for a 1970 SL350 I get the gen 1 carb parts, but I have the gen 2 type carbs. I notice it says "dual CV carbs", can you translate that for me?That's an easy one. With a frame number starting 100xxxx, it's a K0. You might check the engine number to see if it's an original SL350K0 engine because the CB/CL engines would interchange, all had electric start as did the K0. First entry here
This link below has pics of an SL350K0, note the carbs and their shape/design. CV stands for constant velocity (sometimes referred to as constant vacuum). The chrome cap on top is the vacuum chamber that helps the slide lift as the engine develops more vacuum when the throttle plate behind it is opened by the throttle cable. This allows more flexibility of throttle application without bogging or stalling the engine because of the design.
www.vintagehondatwins.com
To find one with the engine and frame numbers only 11 digits apart is rare, you have a keeper.
Well, if I'd known that already....
good for you, those are the best kind to buy.All part of the larger learning experience you'll get here, and there's a lot to know about these incredibly simple and fabulous bikes that people find so hard to work on these days... because they're all mechanical, no electronics.
Thanks for all your help!To find one with the engine and frame numbers only 11 digits apart is rare, you have a keeper.
Well, if I'd known that already....
All part of the larger learning experience you'll get here, and there's a lot to know about these incredibly simple and fabulous bikes that people find so hard to work on these days... because they're all mechanical, no electronics.
Hi,
Henry, unfortunately my Honda ID Guide only covers US models and there are no 400cc bikes listed in it that start with V, much less VRX.
OK Thanks for trying. Think I'm going to have to try Honda in Japan.Henry, unfortunately my Honda ID Guide only covers US models and there are no 400cc bikes listed in it that start with V, much less VRX.
Found this about the bike which you're probably already aware of
And if I had to guess, I'd say this result was probably you looking for further information elsewhere
Without knowing the engine number it would be impossible to tell you if it's original or not, but I can tell you most Hondas from that era do not have matching frame and engine numbers. And as for carbs, they do not have numbers that match any frame or engine number as some sets of carbs were used on more than one year and model. I can tell you that your frame number shows your bike to truly be a CB550K1, that model began with frame number CB550-1200005 and with engine number CB550E-1029182.
I was able to find my engine number to be CB550E-1048023. I am assuming I have the original engine that came on this bike, hopefully. It doesn't really matter that much, but kind of nice to know!
Based on the progression of engine numbers for the CB550K1, I'd guess so. Or at least a replacement engine from the same year run which ended at 1067333, CB550K '76 (which essentially is the K2 though around that time they started going away from additional K-series numbers).
Don, I can tell you whatever the Honda ID Guide shows for it - but for now, please recheck your PMs (private messages). Thanks.
