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Stage 4: Even your friends and family say you need help…

EzPete

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With the Pirate Ship CX build in the books, ol Jenny Craig in the corner started whispering my name. Something along the lines of “do something with me, or just put me out of this misery already”

I keep telling myself this is going to be a drawn out build - targeting fall of 2025 (usually cools back off to great riding weather around October)

I debated doing anything, but my stubborn inability to just trash a “perfectly good” bike sometimes stretches my intents - so in for a penny, in for a pound. Aided by my son immediately saying “what’s next” after this mini rehab…
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We move on to “what’s next”. Meet Jenny Craig - messy, hefty, and high mileage, she’s something all right.

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Yes. That’s nearly 60,000 miles on the clock, with zero idea of what the maintenance history was, other than knowing it sat untouched in a shed for at least 2018-2024, this should be quick and easy - I say should because I should be dragging this thing to a scrap yard as a mercy killing.

We’ve got a passenger peg bolted in on the left side - since the geometry was wrong, a simple bend of the gear shift lever solved that: IMG_0136.jpeg

I have a feeling that this “repair” was likely done at the same time, based on rust carbon dating

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Yes. That’s baling wire as an exhaust bracket.
But it was obviously an “all gas, no brakes” kind of thing - side note, I had no idea zip ties could corrode.
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On the bright side? Two headers somehow free of road rash and rust.

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In the famous words of Carl Spackler “so I got that going for me”

On to the plan:
There is no plan

I’ve got a front end from a 2002 Fireblade, a sketchy idea of what I’m going for and a $2000 budget (for real this time). So, Jenny Craig now becomes the bride of Frankenstein.

The determination of where I head in this is going to come down to whether or not I’m dropping $400 or so on new carbs, so step one is to see what these crusty VB29A’s need to come back to life. Thankfully, design-wise they’re really close to the VB21’s and 22’s and there’s some great resources on here for those, I’d give them a decent shot at survival.

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The blue sealant/caulking is a nice touch, particularly where it was slopped on over the ring clamps. Unfortunately these intakes insulators are basically NLA so they’ll be getting a rebuild as well - there’s a couple of hefty cracks visible and no telling what’s under the globs of what I think is blue Permatex.

Obviously, having sat for the better part of a decade, there’s some gummed up, absolutely rancid, fuel in the bowls and what appeared to be pig snot in the fuel line. Orings are basically powder but everything still rotates - it’s just really hard to be in the same vicinity at the moment. That smell is seeping into everything.

Once we get these cleaned up, ideas should start forming and then it’s on to the mechanical full body scan. With summer in full force now (day 2 of what’s supposed to be 11 straight over 100 degree days with humidity making it feel worse) progress will be slow out of the gate.

So we’ll check back in later to see what’s left on the budget.

I promise. Last one for a while.
 
Yeah, that thing is pretty rough, it will test your skills at putting lipstick on the pig. And overcoming the idiocy of the POs involved... I mean, there are so many things that it almost had to be more than one PO to accomplish all that fine work.
 
Yeah, that thing is pretty rough, it will test your skills at putting lipstick on the pig. And overcoming the idiocy of the POs involved... I mean, there are so many things that it almost had to be more than one PO to accomplish all that fine work.
From what I’ve been able to ascertain from registration records, the bike was brought to El Paso in 1990, likely Ft Bliss because it was registered every year like clockwork for 4 years, I’m betting a soldier stationed there.

Disappeared for the next decade, then popped back up with a title transfer in 2004 showing a little over 42000 miles in Lubbock to the same guy that owned the CX. He sold both to the guy i bought the bikes from in 2017 - allegedly it ran at that time, mileage at that transfer was 2 less than what’s in the odometer now so it must have at least been able to roll.

The smell though. My god. I’m pretty sure this was supposed to be Dante’s 10th circle but he passed out from the fumes. Those carbs must have been sealing it in, because now the shop is almost uninhabitable. It smells like a skunk dipped itself in 2 stroke oil and died in the engine block.
 
Dunked them in some warm fabuloso for about 30 minutes and gave them a half ass scrub and a rinse to get a better idea. Not too too terrible and that knocked the smell down enough to at least be able to handle them.

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Butterfly valves are slightly out of sync, the right opens a millisecond later than the left - might just need the screws loosened a hair and the plate wiggled just a tiny bit.

I don’t recall that vacuum line to nowhere and it doesn’t appear to have a connection- nothing about it in the combo CX/GL manual, so time to search through the GL manual.

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Choke plates operate perfectly, was able to tap the slides down and they rebounded- right side is every so slightly sticky but not grinding or catching. The air mixture thumb screw operated both slides, so that mechanism appears to be intact.

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Popped one bowl off. Jets don’t look mangled at all, which is a good sign, pretty heavy layer of varnish, the gasket has the consistency of dried paint. Float level was at 21.1mm (sideways just touching the float valve). Fasteners on the other bowl are pretty hammered, but all the screws are getting replaced anyway.

Verdict: These appear to be rebuildable. Time for some disassembly and chem dip soak. I’m just praying I can free these jets, I’ve had terrible luck with emulsion tubes stripping lately.
 
I don’t recall that vacuum line to nowhere and it doesn’t appear to have a connection- nothing about it in the combo CX/GL manual, so time to search through the GL manual.
I have no idea, but there may have been a vacuum operated petcock? Maybe check the fuel tank section in your manual.
 
Good reminder. I think that’s in Larry’s book too - haven’t start on assembly.

I think the accelerator rod is shot, the rubber is intact and everything but it’s not very pliable. So far it’s new floats, accelerator rod, hardware (most of it is very useable, but it costs almost the same to just replace everything), cut off valves.

The 4into1 kits I forgot I had actually have the proper orings for the fuel pipes, bowl, stopper and mixture screws - just not the bowl drain screws.

Putting together the random stuff to clean out all these holes led to an unplanned Harbor Freight trip, so some $3 micro drill bits and $5 brass brushes are in hand now to get started with the spray out.

In doing so, I realized I’ve only got one mixture screw for the LH carb. That’s odd - checking the RH carb to see if I missed it and nope - where it’s supposed to go is this:
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The scratches are from me with a tiny awl to see if the slot was just completely gummed and my blind ass missed it. But that looks to be some kind of bung. I guess the only way to find out is to drill it out.
 
That's the remains of the mixture screw. Treat it like a stuck screw, penetrating oil, heat, left hand drill bit.
Indeed it was. Somehow snapped off cleanly and flush. Oh well - got it out, swapped out for one of the backups.

Did all the sanding, spraying, poking, spraying, scraping, spraying. Did I mention spraying?

PO did not have o-rings in either mixture screw. I think they just relied on the gunk build up. A piece of bicycle control cable makes a great set of brushes for future reference- you can use single strand, 2 or 3, make a tiny end brush by twisting and rat nesting - just have to go easy with it.

Hardware and floats should be here Wednesday, then we’re on to reassembly - and that pesky part of building a bike for the carbs to go into.
 
Well. That was the fastest 4into1 delivery I’ve ever had. Somehow accidentally ordered two accelerator pumps but everything was in my mail today. On to the reassembly!
 
Always good to get stuff in a hurry, and now you have an spare on the shelf that will get buried over time.
 
You just had to go there… well, let’s see where this rabbit hole leads!

At least that’s something I can do inside, instead of mixing sweat with polishing compound
 
The crushing weight of possible public scorn was too great. I caved in after “good nuff”… I’m not going to say it involved q-tips, because I went with the off brand ones after the spinny brush.

I think I’ve spent more time cleaning this one carb than I did on the entire block of the CX. Which now means the valve covers will have to get a level of polishing n’er to before seen round this shop.

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Now I’m probably going to have to anodize the frame and fuel crossover tubes.
 
That's too purty to risk getting dirty, you need to mount it in a glass case on the wall in the shop.
 
I gotta say. These things rock. Put them in the dremel on a low/medium speed and they do a great job. New addiction unlocked - I got some in nylon too for degreasing and cleaning out little nooks for paint.
Yeah, that ballbearing guy is good like that. :ROFLMAO:
 
yeah, but now you have to wipe down the carbs after every ride................


Paint em flat black and forget about em.
 
yeah, but now you have to wipe down the carbs after every ride................


Paint em flat black and forget about em.
Trust me. It crossed my mind. These thing have dozens (hyperbole) of little check valves and vents, clogging one of those and it’s ballgame.

If I didn’t already have one bike that’s essentially black on black, this one probably would end up like that too.

At this rate, I’m going to end up polishing the radiator and have to draw the line there.
 
Buy stove. Remodel kitchen..........
I can't afford better batteries and maintainers or a whole house generator. Where the hell would I get kitchen remodel money??

Seriously, we got an estimate a couple years ago to remodel our kitchen ($35,000) and after my near-cardiac arrest, it was a hard no.
 
Just a statement about how things cascade beyond original intentions.

New stove makes old fridge look shabby. Replace. Two new appliances make dishwasher look shabby. Replace. Now look how bad the cabinets look.

$38,500 before you know it.
 
Just a statement about how things cascade beyond original intentions.

New stove makes old fridge look shabby. Replace. Two new appliances make dishwasher look shabby. Replace. Now look how bad the cabinets look.

$38,500 before you know it.
That is 100% the truth. My cart at Icognito Moto and SpeedMotoCo attests to that.

Speaking of which. Does VHT still have a discount code with SpeedMoto? I tried the old one from their thread but it didn’t work.
 
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Just a statement about how things cascade beyond original intentions.

New stove makes old fridge look shabby. Replace. Two new appliances make dishwasher look shabby. Replace. Now look how bad the cabinets look.

$38,500 before you know it.
Our kitchen looks every bit of the era it is from (1994) and really, it probably looked a bit old school even then. It's the one compromise we made to get this place, which fell into our budget range and had all the other things we were looking for (1 acre of property, 26x36 detached and nicely insulated air conditioned garage and only 400 sq ft smaller than the 4/2/2 we came from) but it looks more dated by the year. At this point the only thing we can afford to do is replace the gas cooktop because of a few minor issues cropping up since it's original. Since there's only 110 available in the island, we can't go electric if we wanted to since the conduit is in the slab. Not enough cabinets, not really enough counter space and for a woman who loves to cook and bake, it was a compromise - but the rest of the property fills our needs and we're here for the duration. Just wish we could afford to pay it off.
 
After a month long break of “it’s too damn hot to even think about working in the shop” and two weeks of “hey, I can finally ride without my helmet melting to my skull”. I decided that I’d better get this thing somewhat back on track.

The CX is fun and all, just not very inspiring. So it’s time to get this one and the CB back on the road for what’s supposed to be a dry warm “winter” in Texas.

Since these were eating up bench space I’ll need to get the CB carbs straightened out, I figured I’d knock out the rest of the GL carb rebuild. I thought the low idle jet was a pain. Man, getting these things aligned and hooked up properly is an excellent way to test your patience.

Ordered up the stuff for the engine rebuild. With 58K on the clock I’ll likely be re-boring so it’s time to find a machine shop locally that can fab the CBR brakes disc adapters, do the CX650 sleeve swap (ending up with CX 650 pistons, GL500 stroke, so a 585 CC with a slight bump in compression - should yield about 55-60HP all in.

So. Carbs are done! Now the long grind of a Build where you’re not sure the modifications are going to work begins.

Obligatory shiny carb tax:
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After a bit of a break to focus on changing one gasket on the CB 3 months ago that escalated wildly out of control, I thought I’d drag ol Jenny out on a rainy day and see what we could get done.
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Perfect drizzly day outside, football on all day - no better day to do this.

Surprisingly clean lines on the GL, but this one hid some real fun.
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Yep. That’s a 16ga wire in place of a 30A fuse.
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Terminal blocks? We don’t need no stinking terminal blocks! Dude must’ve had a lot of electrical tape and butt connectors handy.

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So a whole lot of removal work later…

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Dry fit the 929RR front end. Which is almost a straight bolt on. Just needs a bearing kit, a little mixing and matching of hardware, removal of the top steering stop and grinding down the lower steeping stop a bit.

Next up is swapping the wheel bearings to accommodate the thicker axle of the 929, and figuring out adapting the 5 bolt dual disc from the GL to a 6 bolt much larger disc from the 929. Luckily there’s tons of width to work with so I can do something like a wheel spacer/rim adapter.
 
Yep. That’s a 16ga wire in place of a 30A fuse.
But, but, he removed half the strands so it will burn more quickly!
Terminal blocks? We don’t need no stinking terminal blocks! Dude must’ve had a lot of electrical tape and butt connectors handy.
At least it doesn't look like there were any scotchlocks involved...

but certainly some nightmarish "work" done by the PO :rolleyes:
 
But, but, he removed half the strands so it will burn more quickly!

At least it doesn't look like there were any scotchlocks involved...

but certainly some nightmarish "work" done by the PO :rolleyes:
Every single terminal block on the front end except for the ignition switch was replaced by end splicing it directly into another wire. I finally just got out the pruning shears and just hacked out the lumps of taped up connections doubled back on themselves.

Can’t wait to open up this engine and see what that brings.
 
Ol Jenny needed some attention. A fuse cheat I learned was to wrap aluminum foil around the burnt out glass fuse. If that 16 gauge wire isn't working, you could try that ;) Why the front end swap to the different fork? You plan on tearing engine down? Stage 4 is progressing to stage 5. You are descending Daunte's stages. It does get interesting when you have nothing to loose.
 
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